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Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 01 мар 2010, 00:19
Geconiel
Доброе время суток! Мня зовут Алёшка :hat:

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 25 июл 2014, 20:32
Geconiel
20-й, ДВАДЦАТЫЙ сет против меня с рукой не меньше топ овер кармана или тптк, за 3850
рук, самый циничный, в 1 аут

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($222.07) 111bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($255.99) 128bb
CO Geconiel ($201) 101bb
BTN Player1 ($200) 100bb
SB Player2 ($323.62) 162bb
BB Player3 ($200) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Geconiel is CO Q A
1 fold, Player5 raises to $6, Geconiel calls $6, 2 folds, Player3 calls $4

Flop: A Q K ($19, 3 players)
Player3 checks, Player5 bets $18.14, Geconiel calls $18.14, Player3 folds

Turn: 4 ($55.28, 2 players)
Player5 bets $52.79, Geconiel calls $52.79

River: 5 ($160.86, 2 players)
Player5 bets $179.06, Geconiel calls $124.07

Final Pot: $409.00
Player5 shows
Q Q
Geconiel shows
Q A

Player5 wins $516.18 (net +$260.19)

Player3 lost $6
Geconiel lost $201

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 00:21
Geconiel
Всё, ребята, нл200 я теперь не играю. -10к за 10 дней)))
Последние раздачи - в них уже я совсем местами не прав, но я видимо сейчас уже просто
не готов смотреть на 30-й сет за день против меня спокойно
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Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 14:10
Geconiel
Как в старые, добрые времена
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($43.79) 44bb
UTG+1 Geconiel ($184.18) 184bb
CO Player6 ($117.65) 118bb
BTN Player1 ($55.22) 55bb
SB Player2 ($119.81) 120bb
BB Player3 ($111.82) 112bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG+1 A K
Player4 raises to $3, Geconiel calls $3, 3 folds, Player3 calls $2

Flop: 4 10 2 ($9.50, 3 players)
Player3 checks, Player4 checks, Geconiel bets $4.53, Player3 raises to $12, Player4 folds, Geconiel calls $7.47

Turn: 2 ($33.50, 2 players)
Player3 bets $27, Geconiel calls $27

River: J ($87.50, 2 players)
Player3 checks, Geconiel checks

Final Pot: $87.50
Player3 shows
A 6
Geconiel shows
A K

Geconiel wins $84.70 (net +$42.70)

Player3 lost $42
Player4 lost $3

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 15:24
Geconiel
Муууу-ха-ха, стразы своими потными ладошками пытаются закопать меня на нл100... :-D
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($256.73) 257bb
UTG+1 Geconiel ($501.62) 502bb
CO Player6 ($181.59) 182bb
BTN Player1 ($104.76) 105bb
SB Player2 ($52.62) 53bb
BB Player3 ($140.30) 140bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG+1 10 J
Player4 calls $1, Geconiel raises to $3, 2 folds, Player2 calls $2.50, Player3 calls $2, Player4 calls $2

Flop: Q A 6 ($12, 4 players)
Player2 checks, Player3 checks, Player4 bets $11.46, Geconiel calls $11.46, Player2 calls $11.46, Player3 folds

Turn: 3 ($46.38, 3 players)
Player2 bets $38.16, Player4 calls $38.16, Geconiel calls $38.16

River: A ($160.86, 3 players)
Player4 bets $204.11, Geconiel folds

Final Pot: $160.86
Player2 shows
8 5
Player4 shows
4 A

Player4 wins $566.28 (net +$309.55)

Player2 lost $52.62
Player3 lost $3
Geconiel lost $52.62

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($116.14) 116bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($100) 100bb
CO Player6 ($110.53) 111bb
BTN Geconiel ($144.16) 144bb
SB Player2 ($32) 32bb
BB Player3 ($51.40) 51bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is BTN Q Q
1 fold, Player5 raises to $3, 1 fold, Geconiel calls $3, 1 fold, Player3 calls $2

Flop: Q 5 8 ($9.50, 3 players)
Player3 checks, Player5 bets $9, Geconiel calls $9, Player3 folds

Turn: 10 ($27.50, 2 players)
Player5 bets $26, Geconiel calls $26

River: K ($79.50, 2 players)
Player5 bets $62, Geconiel calls $62

Final Pot: $203.50
Geconiel shows
Q Q
Player5 shows
A J

Player5 wins $200.70 (net +$100.70)

Geconiel lost $100
Player3 lost $3

НО!

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 16:49
Aristocrate
Geconiel:Муууу-ха-ха, стразы своими потными ладошками пытаются закопать меня на нл100... :-D
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($256.73) 257bb
UTG+1 Geconiel ($501.62) 502bb
CO Player6 ($181.59) 182bb
BTN Player1 ($104.76) 105bb
SB Player2 ($52.62) 53bb
BB Player3 ($140.30) 140bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG+1 10 J
Player4 calls $1, Geconiel raises to $3, 2 folds, Player2 calls $2.50, Player3 calls $2, Player4 calls $2

Flop: Q A 6 ($12, 4 players)
Player2 checks, Player3 checks, Player4 bets $11.46, Geconiel calls $11.46, Player2 calls $11.46, Player3 folds

Turn: 3 ($46.38, 3 players)
Player2 bets $38.16, Player4 calls $38.16, Geconiel calls $38.16

River: A ($160.86, 3 players)
Player4 bets $204.11, Geconiel folds

Final Pot: $160.86
Player2 shows
8 5
Player4 shows
4 A

Player4 wins $566.28 (net +$309.55)

Player2 lost $52.62
Player3 lost $3
Geconiel lost $52.62

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($116.14) 116bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($100) 100bb
CO Player6 ($110.53) 111bb
BTN Geconiel ($144.16) 144bb
SB Player2 ($32) 32bb
BB Player3 ($51.40) 51bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is BTN Q Q
1 fold, Player5 raises to $3, 1 fold, Geconiel calls $3, 1 fold, Player3 calls $2

Flop: Q 5 8 ($9.50, 3 players)
Player3 checks, Player5 bets $9, Geconiel calls $9, Player3 folds

Turn: 10 ($27.50, 2 players)
Player5 bets $26, Geconiel calls $26

River: K ($79.50, 2 players)
Player5 bets $62, Geconiel calls $62

Final Pot: $203.50
Geconiel shows
Q Q
Player5 shows
A J

Player5 wins $200.70 (net +$100.70)

Geconiel lost $100
Player3 lost $3

НО!
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Не могу никак понять 1-ю раздачу. Если Final Pot: $160.86, то как может быть Player4 wins $566.28 (net +$309.55) :??

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 17:40
Geconiel
Aristocrate, я сам не понимаю почему так грузит конвертер

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 17:44
Geconiel
:))
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($139.62) 140bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($143.89) 144bb
CO Player6 ($432.78) 433bb
BTN Player1 ($106) 106bb
SB Geconiel ($119.37) 119bb
BB Player3 ($102.87) 103bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is SB
4 folds, Geconiel raises to $3, Player3 calls $2

Flop: ($6, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $4.29, Player3 raises to $14, Geconiel calls $9.71

Turn: ($34, 2 players)
Geconiel checks, Player3 bets $24, Geconiel calls $24

River: ($82, 2 players)
Geconiel checks, Player3 bets $61.87, Geconiel calls $61.87

Final Pot: $205.74
Geconiel shows

Player3 shows


Player3 wins $202.94 (net +$100.07)

Geconiel lost $102.87


:cool:
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($103.56) 104bb
UTG+1 Geconiel ($103.50) 104bb
CO Player6 ($280.84) 281bb
BTN Player1 ($151.57) 152bb
SB Player2 ($111.78) 112bb
BB Player3 ($185.05) 185bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG+1
1 fold, Geconiel raises to $3, Player6 raises to $9, 3 folds, Geconiel calls $6

Flop: ($19.50, 2 players)
Geconiel checks, Player6 bets $12.41, Geconiel raises to $25, Player6 folds

Final Pot: $44.32

Geconiel wins $67.51 (net +$33.51)

Player6 lost $21.41

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 26 июл 2014, 19:57
Geconiel
:-|
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($30.45) 30bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($109.82) 110bb
CO Player6 ($134.87) 135bb
BTN Player1 ($109.93) 110bb
SB Geconiel ($110.62) 111bb
BB Player3 ($100) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is SB
2 folds, Player6 raises to $3, Player1 calls $3, Geconiel raises to $14, 1 fold, Player6 folds, Player1 calls $11

Flop: ($32, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $15.28, Player1 raises to $34, Geconiel goes all-in $96.62, Player1 calls $61.93

Turn: ($223.86, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($223.86, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $223.86
Player1 shows

Geconiel shows


Player1 wins $221.06 (net +$111.13)

Geconiel collects $1.38 (net -$109.24)
Player6 lost $3


поеду лучше на роликах покатаюсь

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 27 июл 2014, 01:18
Geconiel
:player:
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($118.35) 118bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($74.57) 75bb
CO Geconiel ($360.28) 360bb
BTN Player1 ($126.55) 127bb
SB Player2 ($106.14) 106bb
BB Player3 ($148.73) 149bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is CO
2 folds, Geconiel raises to $3, 1 fold, Player2 raises to $9, 1 fold, Geconiel calls $6

Flop: ($19, 2 players)
Player2 bets $9.79, Geconiel calls $9.79

Turn: ($38.58, 2 players)
Player2 bets $20, Geconiel raises to $42, Player2 folds

Final Pot: $78.58

Geconiel wins $119.78 (net +$58.99)

Player2 lost $38.79

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 27 июл 2014, 01:46
Geconiel
Что жжжж, сотки - это не нл200, совсем. В конце залива на нл200 я делал последние подстройки, по сути после них я скорее в ноль играл, ибо 5-6 би - это не в счёт, но бр просто не может дальше терпеть такие потери :((
Сейчас, с этими же мыслями и действиями я возвращаюсь на нл100, первые 6к рук проходят очень обнадёживающе, возможно это то что мне было нужно - до этого все мои изменения в основном касались пре флоп игры, сейчас же я оптимизирую пост флоп, так что посмотрим что из этого получится в итоге, до этого нл 100 я бил на 2бб/100, но там было много подстроек и изменений, думаю скорее 3бб\100 в последний месяц, так что сейчас я должен показать результат 4-5бб+\100 на сотках, ну и перейти всё же на лимит выше :))

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Geconiel ($104.98) 105bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($783.43) 783bb
CO Player6 ($100) 100bb
BTN Player1 ($115.69) 116bb
SB Player2 ($101.50) 102bb
BB Player3 ($174.09) 174bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG
Geconiel raises to $3, 1 fold, Player6 calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $3.58, Player6 calls $3.58

Turn: ($14.66, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $7, Player6 calls $7

River: ($28.66, 2 players)
Geconiel checks, Player6 bets $20.53, Geconiel goes all-in $91.40, Player6 folds

Final Pot: $69.72

Geconiel wins $208.66 (net +$103.68)

Player6 lost $34.11

Итого, первые 6к

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 27 июл 2014, 13:07
Geconiel
Доброе утро :)

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($130.01) 130bb
UTG+1 Geconiel ($106.21) 106bb
CO Player6 ($145.47) 145bb
BTN Player1 ($100) 100bb
SB Player2 ($100.42) 100bb
BB Player3 ($100) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG+1
Player4 raises to $3, Geconiel raises to $8, 4 folds, Player4 calls $5

Flop: ($17.50, 2 players)
Player4 checks, Geconiel bets $12.53, Player4 raises to $25.06, Geconiel calls $12.53

Turn: ($67.62, 2 players)
Player4 checks, Geconiel bets $18, Player4 calls $18

River: ($103.62, 2 players)
Player4 bets $50, Geconiel goes all-in $55.15, Player4 calls $5.15

Final Pot: $213.92
Player4 shows

Geconiel shows


Player4 wins $211.12 (net +$104.91)

Geconiel lost $106.21


мирный атом

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 27 июл 2014, 18:41
Geconiel
Спасибо этим парням :fish:
$0.50/$1 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG NoaH^R1 ($109.53) 110bb
UTG+1 Geconiel ($176.62) 177bb
CO faa87 ($179.03) 179bb
BTN guvnorious ($269.11) 269bb
SB nageur ($348.69) 349bb
BB hdkeisk ($257.90) 258bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG+1
1 fold, Geconiel raises to $3, 2 folds, nageur raises to $10, 1 fold, Geconiel calls $7

Flop: ($21, 2 players)
nageur bets $12, Geconiel raises to $34.03, nageur calls $22.03

Turn: ($89.06, 2 players)
nageur checks, Geconiel bets $43.13, nageur calls $43.13

River: ($175.32, 2 players)
nageur checks, Geconiel goes all-in $89.46, nageur calls $89.46

Final Pot: $354.24
nageur shows a pair of Kings

Geconiel shows three of a kind, Nines


Geconiel wins $351.44 (net +$174.82)

nageur lost $176.62


$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($73.31) 73bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($121.78) 122bb
CO Geconiel ($100) 100bb
BTN Player1 ($100) 100bb
SB Player2 ($147.60) 148bb
BB Player3 ($126.78) 127bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is CO
2 folds, Geconiel raises to $3, 2 folds, Player3 calls $2

Flop: ($6.50, 2 players)
Player3 checks, Geconiel bets $3.10, Player3 raises to $10.50, Geconiel calls $7.40

Turn: ($27.50, 2 players)
Player3 bets $15.50, Geconiel calls $15.50

River: ($58.50, 2 players)
Player3 bets $27.50, Geconiel calls $27.50

Final Pot: $113.50
Player3 shows

Geconiel shows


Geconiel wins $110.70 (net +$54.20)

Player3 lost $56.50


$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Geconiel ($240.77) 241bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($186.20) 186bb
CO Player6 ($100) 100bb
BTN Player1 ($100) 100bb
SB Player2 ($164.14) 164bb
BB Player3 ($82.70) 83bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is UTG
Geconiel raises to $3, 1 fold, Player6 raises to $8.50, 3 folds, Geconiel raises to $19, Player6 calls $10.50

Flop: ($39.50, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $18.86, Player6 calls $18.86

Turn: ($77.22, 2 players)
Geconiel checks, Player6 bets $62.14, Geconiel calls $62.14

River: ($201.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $201.50
Geconiel shows

Player6 shows


Geconiel wins $198.70 (net +$98.70)

Player6 lost $100


$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($88.99) 89bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($150.82) 151bb
CO Player6 ($289.41) 289bb
BTN Player1 ($248.27) 248bb
SB Geconiel ($155.26) 155bb
BB Player3 ($157.76) 158bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is SB
2 folds, Player6 raises to $3, 1 fold, Geconiel raises to $10, 1 fold, Player6 calls $7

Flop: ($21, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $15.04, Player6 calls $15.04

Turn: ($51.08, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $36.58, Player6 calls $36.58

River: ($124.24, 2 players)
Geconiel bets $93.64, Player6 calls $93.64

Final Pot: $311.52
Geconiel shows

Player6 shows


Geconiel wins $308.72 (net +$153.46)

Player6 lost $155.26

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 27 июл 2014, 23:59
Geconiel
:paratrooper:
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($165.35) 165bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($103.82) 104bb
CO Player6 ($106.25) 106bb
BTN Geconiel ($100) 100bb
SB Player2 ($111.45) 111bb
BB Player3 ($100) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is BTN
2 folds, Player6 raises to $2.50, Geconiel calls $2.50, 1 fold, Player3 calls $1.50

Flop: ($8, 3 players)
Player3 checks, Player6 bets $5, Geconiel raises to $12, Player3 folds, Player6 calls $7

Turn: ($32, 2 players)
Player6 checks, Geconiel bets $17, Player6 calls $17

River: ($66, 2 players)
Player6 checks, Geconiel bets $31.60, Player6 folds

Final Pot: $66

Geconiel wins $126.40 (net +$63.30)

Player3 lost $2.50
Player6 lost $31.50


А вот тут я столько говна в чате услышал от рега)))
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($80.50) 81bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($130.40) 130bb
CO Player6 ($198.99) 199bb
BTN Geconiel ($151.06) 151bb
SB Player2 ($127.68) 128bb
BB Player3 ($103.50) 104bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is BTN
3 folds, Geconiel raises to $2, Player2 raises to $8, 1 fold, Geconiel calls $6

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
Player2 bets $12.50, Geconiel calls $12.50

Turn: ($42, 2 players)
Player2 bets $26.50, Geconiel goes all-in $130.56, Player2 calls $80.68

River: ($256.36, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $256.36
Geconiel shows

Player2 shows


Geconiel wins $300.32 (net +$149.26)

Player2 lost $127.68


Рубеж в 10к рук успешно пройден, кажется теперь меня многие на лимите недолюбливают :happy:

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 28 июл 2014, 11:13
DrWholmes
Geconiel, 21bb/100 - это что-то на грани фантастики :)

Серьезно, такой результат даже с учетом передачи в 4,5 БИ - просто сказка. Поздравляю!

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 28 июл 2014, 15:58
Geconiel
DrWholmes, просто дистанция маленькая, если будет 5бб на адекватной выборке -
вот это будет неплохо (а вот если больше, то уже сказка))

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 28 июл 2014, 23:32
Geconiel
Долго думал, но вроде норм?
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($318.99) 319bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($100) 100bb
CO Player6 ($148.26) 148bb
BTN Geconiel ($200.16) 200bb
SB Player2 ($309.82) 310bb
BB Player3 ($108.05) 108bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Geconiel is BTN
3 folds, Geconiel raises to $2, Player2 raises to $8, 1 fold, Geconiel raises to $18, Player2 calls $10

Flop: ($37, 2 players)
Player2 checks, Geconiel bets $17.67, Player2 calls $17.67

Turn: ($72.34, 2 players)
Player2 checks, Geconiel bets $34.77, Player2 goes all-in $274.15, Geconiel calls $129.72

River: ($401.32, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $401.32
Geconiel shows

Player2 shows


Geconiel wins $398.52 (net +$198.36)

Player2 collects $219.32 (net -$90.50)

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 29 июл 2014, 07:38
bagzik
Geconiel wins $398.52 (net +$198.36)
Значит норм)))

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 29 июл 2014, 10:11
Geconiel
bagzik, да не, там по шансам вроде слабо минусовой кол если в готовый флэш
въехать и соответственно плюсовый если там что-то другое, а учитывая динамику игры с
регами - там например вообще бродвей с фд может оказаться, или чистый блеф, а скорее
ак с фд

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 29 июл 2014, 12:34
DrWholmes
Geconiel, имхо минусовой мув, если нет ридсов на частый блеф оппа/или очень широкий 3бет префлоп у него. Вообще
по таким раскладам выглядит похоже на среднюю карманку/АК

Re: Алёшка и покер

СообщениеДобавлено: 29 июл 2014, 13:09
bagzik
DrWholmes, ну как раз против ТТ-/АК кол вроде норм.

п.с. хотя может и не хватает не много.